Ghost: I was criticizing because the addition of the ums is not necessary. You're the second person to do that in the past couple of weeks. This might not be what you intended, but I take it as an attempt to soft bash THJMW. If you don't want me to take it that way, then I would suggest you leave out the um's and uh's when you decide to do a "transcript". If you have spent any time over the past couple of months reading any of the official court transcripts, you'll find that professional court reports don't bother with uh and um as they do not add anything of value to the quote.
Ghost: I'm glad we have so many professional transcribers on the board. And I'm extremely happy that you all agree that all those uh's and um's are necessary to show the "nuance of what she said". I'm saying its absolutely unnecessary. If you're going to post a transcription on this board, leave out the "nuances" or you'll be banned from the board. I thought I was clear the first time I mentioned it as it appears to be soft bashing to me. If you don't agree with this decision, you're welcome to start your own board where you can include all the uh's and um's you want.
Bopfan: I disagree because that's the way the court speaks. The ear and mind receive those sounds and interpret them just as if they were words.
Ghost: I truly wish we'd put an end to this discussion. I don't want uh's and um's in pseudo transcriptions. If people want to do psychological evaluations of why there is an um here and not there, take it elsewhere. If people want to make reference to the pauses and such, tell them to listen to the audio as that is much more telling than adding um's. I'd even consider adding [pause] in if there is a long pause. But uh's and um's do nothing for me.
Bopfan: I don't understand how anyone can get angry about something like this? I have heard from many people that you are grumpy but this is the first time I'm seeing it for myself. I don't mind moving on -- permanently.
Ghost: I'm sorry you feel that way, but we do have rules. Not everyone will agree with them. One of my pet peaves is bashing on THJMW whether its real bashing as we see on yahoo or soft bashing. I've given my explanation as to why I see this is soft bashing. The grumpiness comes from having to repeat the explanation as I don't do this for a living.
Bopfan: I don't like bashing her either, as anyone who has read my Yahoo posts can tell. For the record, in future if I ever quote her verbatim here or anywhere else it's not to bash her. If I want to bash anyone, I'm explicit. FYI, I don't do well with unreasonable strictures, and this one is unreasonable.
Jayne: Bopfan, While I can see where Ghost is coming from (perception of soft bashing) I totally disagree with him on this one. I am in full agreement with you with regard to your appearent repulsion of unreasonable strictures and I totaly agree that this is not only unreasonable but the issue boarders on childishness.