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Cobas AM: Nueva Gestora de Francisco García Paramés

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#65994

Re: Cobas AM: Nueva Gestora de Francisco García Paramés

Algo que me había preguntado varias veces sobre las ventajas e inconvenientes de invertir a través de BRK (o similares) y directamente en cartera propia.
También habla de las diferencias de BRK y GreenLight, a nivel de las comisiones implicitas:

I also considered investing my savings in one of a handful of public companies that operate as low-cost yet high-quality investment vehicles. Berkshire Hathaway pays Warren Buffett an annual salary of $100,000 for arguably the finest capital allocation skills in the world. Buffett receives no bonus, no stock options, and no restricted stock, let alone hedge-fund-style performance fees.5 It certainly seems like investors considering an investment in a highly prized hedge fund should first convince themselves that their prospective fund manager can beat Buffett. Doing this on a pre-fee basis is hard enough; on an after-fee basis, the odds diminish considerably. Of course, buying a share of Berkshire is not quite associated with the same level of privilege and exclusivity as being accepted into a secretive hedge fund. Berkshire is not the only public holding company with shareholder-friendly and astute management. Alternatives include Brookfield Asset Management, Fairfax Financial, Leucadia National, Loews Companies, Markel Corporation, and White Mountains Insurance. While these companies meet Buffett-style compensation criteria, some public investment vehicles have married hedge-fund-style compensation with a value investment approach. Examples include Greenlight Capital Re and Biglari Holdings. These hedge funds in disguise may ultimately deliver satisfactory performance to their common shareholders, but they are unlikely to exceed the long-term after-fee returns of a company like Markel, which marries superior investment management with low implied fees. In light of the exceptional long-term investment results and low fees of companies like Berkshire and Markel, it may be irrational for any long-term investor to manage his or her own portfolio of stocks. Professional fund managers have a slight conflict of interest in this regard. Their livelihood depends rather directly on convincing their clients that the past performance of Berkshire or Markel is no indication of future results. Luckily for them, securities regulators play along with this notion, thereby doing their part in encouraging a constant flow of new entrants into the lucrative fund management business. Rest assured, we won’t judge too harshly those who choose to manage their own equity investments. After all, that is precisely what I did with my savings in 2003 and have done ever since. You could say that underlying my decision has been remarkable folly, but here are a few justifications for the do-it-yourself approach: First, investment holding companies like Berkshire and Markel are generally not available for purchase at net asset value, implying that some recognition of skill is already reflected in their market price. While over time the returns to shareholders will converge with internally generated returns on capital, the gap is accentuated in the case of shorter holding periods or large initial premiums paid over net asset value. Even for a company like Berkshire, there is a market price at which an investment becomes no longer attractive.

John Mihaljevic. The Manual of Ideas (Posición en Kindle271-294). Wiley. Edición de Kindle. 
#65995

Re: Cobas AM: Nueva Gestora de Francisco García Paramés

Me da a mi que en los próximos meses vamos a ver una espiral de PW que van a dejar a los índices temblando.
#65996

Re: Cobas AM: Nueva Gestora de Francisco García Paramés

Sólo me faltó meterme en Renault a 35, menos mal que no lo hice, menuda escabechina lleva hoy... cuando un valor toma esa cuesta abajo hay que tener mucho cuidado , ni aunque llegase a 10 estaría yo tranquilo metiendo pasta ahí a ese en principio fantástico precio, la rapidez con que está bajando no me da ninguna confianza, pero bueno un paquetito más abajo mientras sea poca exposición en relación a nuestra cartera pues no lo descarto.
#65997

Re: Cobas AM: Nueva Gestora de Francisco García Paramés

Vaya día llevamos hoy otra vez.TK, Gaslog...etc
#65998

Re: Cobas AM: Nueva Gestora de Francisco García Paramés

Hay algún valiente en el foro dispuesto a entrar en Santander a 2,25 euros?.
#65999

Re: Cobas AM: Nueva Gestora de Francisco García Paramés

Siempre han estado creando ilusiones entre los clientes, con PER's imaginarios, precios objetivos inventados y grandes analistas trabajando las 24 horas del día en favor de sus participes. El mayor fracaso que he visto a lo largo de 54 años de bolsa. 
#66000

Re: Cobas AM: Nueva Gestora de Francisco García Paramés

a 2.25 ? yo, ahora mismo. 
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