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Washington Mutual demanda a la FDIC por 17 billones US$ + daños

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#1705

Mis disculpas a los miembros regulares de este foro

A nadie le gusta que le insulten y menos llamandome cosas que no son ciertas. Cree este tema para ayudar a la gente nada más.

Supongo que es la naturaleza humana buscar culpables en vez de ser hombres y aguantar los palos. Ya dijo Buffettt "no estes en bolsa si no eres capaz de aguantar un 50% de depreciación". ¿llevas mucho en esto? o te acabas de iniciar.

No entraré mas al trapo, estaré aquí como siempre aportando ideas y a mi de verdad no me preocupa la actual situación, es parte del juego... al amigo le diria 3 cosas solo:
1. Vende y palma
2. Compra y baja tu media
3. Esperate como los que llevamos aquí desde el 24 de sptiembre 2008 habiendolas pasado canutas y ahora disfrutando de las revalorizaciones.

Cuando esto llegue a su fin si eres un hombre aceptaré tus disculpas, mientras tanto ahi tienes tus 3 opciones.

Buen finde a todos

PD: Excelente el post anterior para que se entienda la realidad y no se haga caso a los medios que estan manipulando esta historia para beneficio de JPM y FDIC

#1706

Re: Mis disculpas a los miembros regulares de este foro

GRACIAS, BUEN FIN Y A TODOS, GRACIAS POR SUS APORTACIONES QUE HACEN MAS LLEVADERA LA ....X

BYE.!

#1707

Re: Mis disculpas a los miembros regulares de este foro

Jesús

Has aportado muchas cosas positivas al foro, desde el principiose has dejado claro que estas acciones son de altísimo riesgo y que a pesar de ello tienen un potencial de revalorización impresionante.
Si te fijas, ninguno de los que te han criticado de manea ofensiva son miembros regulares del foro, todos llevan la etiqueta de Nuevos.
No creo que ninguno de los habituales piense que debas disculparte.

Un saludo y a disfrutar del fin de semana..

P.D A ver si en el próximo post me recomiendas los 3 mejores sitios de tapas de sevilla que voy a ir para allí en um mes solo a salir de tapas.

#1708

Articulo muy interesante de la voz más transparente desde el inicio

Washington Mutual Spars With JPMorgan Over $3.7B In Cash
Peg Brickley
| 22 October 2009

JPMorgan Chase & Co. "is really sweating" over $3.7 billion that was in accounts at Washington Mutual Bank when JPMorgan took it over, an attorney for WaMu's former parent said Thursday.

Washington Mutual Inc., the former parent, says the cash belongs to it, and that JPMorgan has no evidence to the contrary, even though it obtained control of WaMu's information systems and most of its employees when it bought the failing thrift, more than a year ago.


"JPMorgan has been sitting on a mountain of information about the deposits," said David Elsberg, who's with Quinn Emanual Urquhart Oliver & Hedges. "They have all the witnesses and all that documents that they would need to create any issue. But there is no issue."

In 1,000 pages of legal papers, JPMorgan has made no showing it's entitled to the money, Elsberg said, arguing for a pretrial victory that would give Washington Mutual Inc. funds to pay off its creditors in bankruptcy.

JPMorgan is demanding a trial to determine whether the cash that was in Washington Mutual Inc.'s accounts at WaMu were bank deposits or a capital contribution from a worried parent to an ailing subsidiary.

If that's the case, JPMorgan says, the money belongs to it as part of its deal to buy WaMu "lock, stock and barrel."

"They are seeking $4 billion that they say they have in an institution that they ran and they ran into the ground," said JPMorgan attorney Robert Sacks, who's with Sullivan & Cromwell.

Washington Mutual Inc. filed for Chapter 11 protection and wants U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Mary Walrath to order JPMorgan to hand over the cash now. Walrath said Thursday she will rule later on the issue.

Besides JPMorgan, the parent company is up against the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., which says it may have claims on the cash as well. The FDIC is acting as receiver for WaMu, sifting through claims for payment from creditors of the thrift.

John Clark, an attorney for the FDIC, said Thursday if JPMorgan is in danger of losing control of the cash, the agency will order JPMorgan to transfer the bank accounts back to the FDIC. Clark is with DLA Piper.

The FDIC says it needs to keep the cash right where it is while it investigates whether the money is property of the parent company or of the bank.

Investors in the parent company bonds are watching the cash clash closely. JPMorgan and Washington Mutual Inc. have other battles to fight, including one over billions of dollars worth of tax refunds. However, the contents of parent-company accounts at WaMu are the largest single asset of the Seattle holding company, and would be enough to fuel a fast payoff.

Parent company creditors are owed only about $6 billion. WaMu bondholders are out more than $13 billion, and are eyeing the cash intensely, as well.

"It's our money," said Philip D. Anker, attorney for investors who bought bonds in WaMu, the operating bank, rather than in the bank holding company. He's with Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale & Dorr.

JPMorgan attorney Sacks said there is something "suspect" about the parent's claim it had "$4 billion sitting" in WaMu at a time when the thrift was on the brink of failure.

"It's our money," said Sacks.

WaMu was taken over by regulators in September 2008, after customers yanked $16.7 billion worth of deposits from it in a 10-day period.

"The bank failed. It was put in a position where it was unsafe and unsound," Sacks said. Bank records indicated Washington Mutual made book entries about funds it didn't have during WaMu's final days, the lawyer said.

Much of the cash came from a $7 billion transaction in April that involved the sale of parent company stock in investors led by TPG Inc., Sacks said. However, the money was raised "for the bank," or WaMu, and not for Washington Mutual, the parent, so JPMorgan should keep the cash as part of the acquisition of WaMu, the lawyer said.





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#1709

WAHUQ

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=WAHUQ.PK&=

Me acabo de dar cuenta fijaros el gran bloque de acciones movidas en wahuq, es el segundo mayor volumen desde la incautación. Aquí algo se cuece detrás del escenario. Los fondos que invierten en wahuq, primero ganan y luego van a la guerra.

Saludos

#1710

Otra perla sacada del foro de Yahoo

Para aquellos que sigan algo nerviosos (lo cual es totalmente lógico) y necesiten algo de tranquilidad y seguridad...Aquí teneis la página principal del gabinete jurídico que nos representa ( www.quinnemanuel.com ) Podeis echar un vistazo a la página y buscar credenciales de David Elsberg que es el abogado principal en el caso.

Como imagino que sabreis, están especializados en litigios de bancarrota y ahí va la perla que os comentaba ... EL PORCENTAJE DE CASOS GANADOS EN DICHOS PROCEDIMIENTOS ES DEL 91,4%.

PD: Menos mal que no nos enfrentamos a ellos...

Sldos.

#1711

Mis disculpas a los miembros regulares de este foro

Jesus , Yo no creo haberte insultado en ningun momento, es mas pienso que eres una persona lucida, activa entusiasta y muy generoso en tus conocimientos.

#1712

Mis disculpas a los miembros regulares de este foro

Jesus ,
Lo siento si algo del post que adjunte te molesto.Por mas que lo releo no encuentro que te pudo molestar. Y no creo haberte insultado. Es mas pienso que eres una persona lucida, activa, entusiasta y muy generoso con tus conocimientos. Yo en particular lo agradezco mucho y lo valoro. Solo pretendia aplacar a algunos que parecen inquietos.
Saludos